Podcast: Tankespjärn 3

For our third conversation, Helena Roth and I got testy about the same stuff. And there’s no camaraderie like the camaraderie of shared testiness.

She writes so well of where this one went, I’ll let her explain:

“How we are demonizing answers to certain questions, for sure, but even worse—and this scares me—we’re demonizing the asking of the question in the first place. And that’s not a road I want us—culturally, together—to venture further down on.

How can I share what I know, what I see, what I experience, what I fear, what I’m concerned about in such a way that you can have a better chance at receiving it?

Which brings us to the ability to have sticky conversations. Those that are preferably had in person, face-to-face, in the flesh. The one’s where I am not even sure that I know my own stance, and thus perhaps shy away from even more.

Even though what’s needed, from where I stand, is more of them. About what’s important to me, to us. How we are to live together. What we do when there’s strife and angst and disagreement and perhaps even aggression. Sticky! And important.

Join me and Kate as we meander past a number of sticky topics, with curiosity, openness, and quite a bit of playfulness thrown in too. I think that helps, especially when encountering a hard-to-swallow piece of tankespjärn or two.”

Watch our most recent chat below, or listen at the Tankespjärn website or wherever you listen to podcasts.